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Fri May 23, 2014 7:44 am
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Bob,
I stopped reading Julian Jaynes "The Origin of Conciousness and the Breakdown of the Bi-Cameral Mind" as I thought it became absurd. I really lliked the begining conversation about conciousness and how we think about thinking but then it went south.

What do you think of this. Coud it be said that speech is a technology so ancient that it's hardwired into the human brain? Compared to writing which humans have been doing for thousands of years, yet it's still not "hardwired" into our brains.

So it seemd to me that the changes to human brains Jaynes suggests happend way quickly to be taken seriously.

Then he goes on to use the bi-cameral mind and the broken down bi-cameral mind to answer any and EVERY archeological and anthropological question out there.

So I stopped reading and couldn't continue.
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Wed May 28, 2014 3:21 am
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~Foo Fighter~ wrote:
Bob,
I stopped reading Julian Jaynes "The Origin of Conciousness and the Breakdown of the Bi-Cameral Mind" as I thought it became absurd. I really lliked the begining conversation about conciousness and how we think about thinking but then it went south.

What do you think of this. Coud it be said that speech is a technology so ancient that it's hardwired into the human brain? Compared to writing which humans have been doing for thousands of years, yet it's still not "hardwired" into our brains.

So it seemd to me that the changes to human brains Jaynes suggests happend way quickly to be taken seriously.

Then he goes on to use the bi-cameral mind and the broken down bi-cameral mind to answer any and EVERY archeological and anthropological question out there.

So I stopped reading and couldn't continue.


speech is an ancient technology that is hardwired

gutteral language was a precursor to advanced language and sophistication like metaphors that enabled a sense of relation and a self of individual consciousness itself...

pretty basic stuff foo.
 
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